Distance Driver · Understable vs Stable
The Discraft Hades (12/6/-3/+2) and Innova Groove (13/6/-2/+2) are both distance drivers, and they fly similarly, with only minor differences.
The Groove is the faster disc (speed 13 vs 12), needing a touch more arm speed, while the Hades comes up to speed at a lower power level. The Groove is the more overstable of the two (stability 0 vs -1), so it fights wind and finishes harder to the left, while the Hades flies straighter or turns more. Estimated maximum distance is about 138 m for the Hades versus 145 m for the Groove.
Choose the Groove when you need to fight wind, throw forehand, or want a dependable finishing hook. Reach for the Hades when you want a straighter line, an easier turnover, or more help at a lower arm speed.
The Groove is the faster disc (speed 13 vs 12), needing a touch more arm speed, while the Hades comes up to speed at a lower power level. The Groove is the more overstable of the two (stability 0 vs -1), so it fights wind and finishes harder to the left, while the Hades flies straighter or turns more.
The Groove is more overstable and finishes harder to the left; the Hades flies straighter or turns more easily.